People who get bored easily from long hymns have never learned how to discipline themselves and see the beauty of and pray melismatic hymns. People who complain that they want a hymn that everyone can sing along with, usually (although not always), …
One must keep in mind the great tragedies that the three Patriarchs lived through for which there was a fear that a monk out of the monastery would not be able to handle the situation, ie, Armenian Genocide, WWI, WWII. There was a fear that the Ott…
1) In youth meetings, where priests or other servants (who are encouraged by the priests) are spitting out nonsense from Joyce Meyer, Pat Robertson, Billy and Franklin Graham, Rick Warren... just to name a few.
Sad. It is universal though.
Remnkemi,
I'm sorry I forgot to mention Ethiopian Tawehdo Orthodox Church and Eritrean. Apparantly, the information online is different than what you suggested.
I stand corrected. Thank you for your kind correction.
I think it is only normal to h…
RO:All priests are elevated to the rank of Deacon before their ordination. Many Bishops do the ordination on separate days. However, due to the age of the Pope and therefore his intolerance for extended long services, they are ordained deacon before…
Thank you, RemnKemi, for your valuable post.
Of the churches you mentioned, only the Armenian and Syrian concern me. You are right, they have adapted the system of consecration of bishops to their Patriarchate for a long time. I am not sure why an…
Concerning the Patriarch's Ordination:
Posts # 35, 37 and 40 by His Reverence Father Peter and post # 43 by Biboboy represent my point of view more accurately and much more eloquently. Thank you.
I will comment on the following paragraphs as it r…
And if any one, after this decree of the holy and .....
The keyword here is anyone, not the Church consensus for such a move.
The holy and great synod refers to the council of Nicea. It is not your local church council or your assembly of believers…
No. I am afraid that this is not just my view. You can find the same interpretation here:
I am afraid you did not clarify enough how the link you attached proves your point. If anything, it makes a historical reference to the incident of Origen, whi…
I'm under the impression that you're hijacking this thread with a different, hidden agenda about the canons of episcopacy.
Maybe I did not emphasize my point enough. Will try to put it in form of questions:
Can we expect a church that repeatedly v…
Hope this clears the confusion.
Thanks for the contribution, but I believe it is a private interpretation that is not supported by the text or the spirit of the canon as you posted it.
The argument is simple.
It is impossible to "ordain" a bishop…
Hi Andrew,
just a correction to my post above. Pope 114 mentioned above is Pope Macarius III and not Demetrius.
As to the book authored by Hegomen Filotheos, it is out of print and I only have an old copy that I can try to pdf and send to you. I …
Stavro,
What are you referring to in point #3? What canons were disregarded in ordinating the Patriarch. . .4 times?!
Apostolic Canon # 48
This canon anathemizes any bishop / priest / deacon who is ordained twice to the same rank. The Canon anat…
Reinforcing the rank of Deacons has nothing to do with money.
Poor dioceses in Egypt, with saintly bishops, have structured deacon ranks starting with one archdeacon. The archdeacon has greater responsibilities than any single priest or hegumen, o…
He is very much a Muslim. He is, by the way, also a candidate for presidency in Egypt. He has been the clown of Egypt since the military coup with his ridiculous shows. He owns a channel and it broadcasts his program about 22 hrs a day. The man has …
Soldiers are not breaking any commandments by taking the field against other armies. They are carrying out their professional duties that they were trained in, the same as a doctor who amputates an arm is not consdered a sinner.
As a proof, they h…
"...speaking the truth in love." (Ephesians 4:15)
The truth about heretics is: They are heretics. Telling them they are heretics saves their souls. This is true love.
We have no single incident in the Church history in which a saint has put politi…
Those funny little parties are part of the deal to give a semblance of "democracy". If you read back your stated chronology, and the limited resource towards possible election, the new parties "miraculously" win 20%. It is part of the "bessara" th…
BTW, anyone naive enough to think that these results weren't cooked up as a negotiated bargain with the junta?
You are right:
There is a deal with the junta, and with Mama America.
There were gross violations throughout the whole political transi…
El-Masry El-Yoom, an independent newspaper in Egypt, reported that the initial counts show a majority won by the MB, leaving the coalition of secular parties (El-Kutlah) and the Salafis to fight for a distant second. Unconfirmed initial counts, acco…
Before Mau Tse - Tong, Great Britain tried to destroy China by soliciting opium into China, managing to hook a great number of the Chinese on it, knowing it will destroy them and then they can be controlled easier. Great Western values !!
It is th…
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Why isn't HH Pope Shenouda getting involved with the events in Egypt?[/quote]
H.H. Pope Shenouda should not get involved in politics. His office is strictly spiritual …
Some observations:
1) We are united to the Byzantine Chalcedonians already. Once some of us signed the agreed statements on our behalf, we have validated the Faith, the sacrements, the theology, christology and all elements of the Chalcedonian ideo…
ILSM: There is only one Pope of Alexandria: Pope Shenouda III; successor to the Great St. Mark the Apostle and Martyr. The only way to render anyone else claiming a similar title is: usurper, fake, contra-Orthodox.
I agree with you. I salute your…
Hi NicolasMyra,
I am not sure what you classify as primary and secondary, but the sources are:
The "History of the Patriarchs" by St. Severus of Ashmonin, written in the 10th century, which is the basis for the two most quoted Coptic resources "Th…
Dear Dzheremi,
Reference to Reply # 41
Stavro: Why are these our only choices? I don't think anyone in this thread wants anyone to be excluded for the sake of evangelism of non-Copts. That seems like it's basically the same problem as Zoxsasi is de…
Mabsoota: abouna pishoy salama has an awesome church, i saw it via the net once and lots of his church servants (from all different ethnic groups) got interviewed.
A bright example indeed.
The Very reverend and holy Priest Bishoy Salama (hereafter…