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  • Thanks dear @tenooshtIn answer to your question @Jojo_Hanna, I would not be able to answer all aspects, but at least I could say that the practice is quite old (not very recent). - Why should it not be said, is exactly like what @mnhanna9 said befor…
  • Hi @Jojo_Hanna, I guess you are asking me why, but in my fear of sounding ignorant, you may be agreeing! Please tell me what you mean by "wdym"? Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡϭⲥ
  • Strictly speaking, baklaos ghar should not be said in either St Basil or St Cyril liturgies, but people do not actually know (or care) about what @mnhanna9 just explained.. Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡϭⲥ
  • Hi all, Below is the corrected version of the Arabic critical appraisal of Fr Youhanna Nassif's thesis - I had to make some changes, additions and corrections, and also embellish the text.. Looking forward to your opinions.. https://www.dropbox.co…
  • Hi @mabsoota, Thank you very much for your comment. Please remember that the paragraph you are referring to is purely hypothetical because the calculations for the feast of resurrection and consequently the apostles fast and feast will all move too.…
  • Dear @copticmercy, I am not going to repeat anything @ItalianCoptic had said as I fully agree with him. I also know of other priests who will be of the opinion of your FoC. My FoC is actually the same. That opens up another question for me which @It…
  • Dear @ItalianCoptic, I am so sorry for the late reply. You know I can't agree more with your statement that God's miracles are unseen and probably unfelt too. I am similar in a way that I was away from the church for a long long time and was only pu…
  • @ItalianCoptic, I can't tell you how happy I am to hear we are in agreement, and more importantly your views for the future of the church under your leadership.. May God bless your service always and give you the wisdom and the strength to tolerate …
  • Dear @SaintJaneDoe, I very much appreciate and commend your stance in defending the minorities and the indigenous people.. God bless you and bless your service. Please do not forget to mention me and my wife in your prayers always.. Dear @ItalianCo…
  • Dear @SaintJaneDoe,First of all I am sorry for what you have gone through.. Secondly, let me address some points that you and @ItalianCoptic have said, admitting that you may not like what I am going to say very much. You see I have lived in Egypt u…
  • Hi @George27 This hymn bears no relation to swtais amen. This hymn is called Alleluja oblations and is said during the selection of the lamb. It is usually skipped altogether because people mistakenly say Kyrialayson which is essentially the end of …
  • Do you mean three different languages? Haha.. (the quote button didn't work, I meant to reply to your comment "two different languages").. Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ
  • Of course @AndrewRezk.. The first anba is ⲁⲃⲃⲁ which refers to the higher clergy people, i.e. bishops (including monastery heads), metropolitans and patriarchs, so you will find it frequently in the congregation of saints in the liturgy from whom we…
  • Hi @AndrewRezk I think they are saying "ebkhebs" which is right rather than "et". Be or eb mean "the" because lamp is a noun, not an adjective. Alle altre parole be o eb significano "il/la" perché lamp è un nome, non è un aggettivo. The mistake in …
  • Hi @AndrewRezk 1) through the prayers of our fathers the patriarchs, anba Athanasius the apostolic, and anba Kyrollos the pillar of the faith, and Dioscoros (bikhebs not "etkhebs") the lamp of Orthodoxy, anba Kyrollos the sixth, o Lord... 2) throug…
  • Hi @Jojo_Hanna, What I am going to say now is so arbitrary, but if other churches have a better practice with Coptic hymns, I would be grateful if they share. Obviously the length could be modified based on the duration of Communion. Adam annual da…
  • OK, ⲡⲓϫⲓⲛⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ = the response (the verb ⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ is to answer as in the hymn ⲅⲟⲗⲅⲟⲑⲁ : ⲁϥⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ ⲛⲁϥ ⲛ̀ϫⲉ Ⲡϭⲥ) Ⲡⲓⲟⲩⲱϩⲉⲙ = the repetition, the verb means to repeat. Ⲛ̀ⲧⲉ = of Ⲡⲓⲯⲁⲗⲙⲟⲥ = the psalm Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡϭⲥ
  • OK, ⲡⲓϫⲓⲛⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ = the response (the verb ⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ is to answer as in the hymn ⲅⲟⲗⲅⲟⲑⲁ : ⲁϥⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ ⲛⲁϥ ⲛ̀ϫⲉ Ⲡϭⲥ) Ⲡⲓⲟⲩⲱϩⲉⲙ = the repetition, the verb means to repeat. Ⲛ̀ⲧⲉ = of Ⲡⲓⲯⲁⲗⲙⲟⲥ = the psalm Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡϭⲥ
  • Hi @Jojo_Hanna Please explain what you mean! I am being quite thick these days! Do you mean the literal translation? Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡϭⲥ
  • Ⲡⲓϫⲓⲛⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ (ⲓⲉ ⲡⲓⲟⲩⲱϩⲉⲙ) ⲛ̀ⲧⲉ ⲡⲓⲯⲁⲗⲙⲟⲥ Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡϭⲥ
  • Yes we are, although I personally would exhaust the "Lordly" hymns first and also limit the doxologies to the watos days (Wednesday - Saturday), we have very few Adam doxologies. At least there are asbasmoses Adam and watos for the saints and angels…
  • Hi @menafayik I'm not sure if this question was directed to me, but personally speaking I would choose ⲡⲟⲩⲣⲟ ⲛ̀ⲧⲉ ϯϩⲓⲣⲏⲛⲏ, ⲟⲩⲛⲟϥ ⲙ̀ⲙⲟ Ⲙⲁⲣⲓⲁ, and ⲁⲡⲉⲕⲣⲁⲛ. Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡϭⲥ
  • Hi @minatasgeel I still don't get the point of your question really. I hope @msmekhael has answered your question to some extent. Anyway, I am hoping that you will enlighten me with your answer lest I misunderstand what you mean - I actually know ho…
  • @minatasgeel, I don't get your point actually. The way I see it is that our dogmas and faith are connected to our hymns and we may be spreading wrong teachings by compromising and pleasing the majority. I hope I understood at least partly your quest…
  • Dear @msmekhael I can't describe enough how pleased I am to see that we are in agreement 110% and not just 100%, thanks a lot really. The only thing I have an issue with, but I do know it is a personal problem, is that we keep doing what we are doin…
  • Hi @msmekhael, Thank you very much for your post. I can see that you thoroughly understood my point and I will therefore need not repeat the things I said before. Now I have heard this saying too many times in different versions, "rites were made fo…
  • Yes @minatasgeel and that leads us to the discussion on the common wrong vs the unrecognised right. For me just because some people find it OK to say something that doesn't make it right and it should only mean they need to be taught. We have a vari…