Thank you very much! Its exactly what I was looking for.
Oh my God!! Hahaha
THat's quite amazing. I just read page 2, and it says "This is what I call the Safe Fathers List". It means, this is well known to be a contentious issue!!
1. Saint Sever…
Fr. Kyrilos , & Fr. Peter:
First of all, I'd like to welcome Fr. Kyrilos. I haven't seem him here before.
Out of curiosity, how many people in your respective congregations would you say knew all these quotes you are saying?
How much theolo…
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How do you know someone has the Holy Spirit?
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Nice response fr. Peter.
How do i know someone has the Holy Spirit? I don't.
I'd have thought that being Ch…
[quote author=peterfarrington link=topic=8778.msg110223#msg110223 date=1265665655]
Theology requires us (those who study theology) to be very accurate. A small error can become a great heresy.
But I understand that there is also a need for simplici…
[quote author=peterfarrington link=topic=8778.msg110218#msg110218 date=1265663637]
I will try to summarise my answers in a final sentence.
Is the final sentence of the last post clear enough?
Father Peter
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Fr.PLEASE do not be upset with m…
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Thank you, both of you, for controlling yourselves.
I think that the Holy Spirit responds to the yearning of our hearts and the effort we put into becoming holy and …
[quote author=peterfarrington link=topic=8778.msg110194#msg110194 date=1265647557]
Hi Mixalhs,
Yes both life and immortality are gifts, but the Fathers are very clear that mortality is an integral aspect of our human nature as God created it. Ther…
Fr Peter farrington is right, let's try and control ourselves during the fasting period.
I think my original question is OK? Can you just let anyone answer it? I'm curious to know how the Holy Spirit stops one person from sinning , and yet allows a…
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Yeah, I think deep down most people on this forum want to see me ex-communicated.
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Yea it wasnt meant to disgrace however the Holy Spirit is referred to as a He just as in the bible, "He will teach you all things and bring to remembrance all things whic…
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I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT WE SHOULD REFER TO THE HOLY SPIRIT AS HE NOT it
Forgive me
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Thanks Ibnyasoo3a. I thought of the Holy Spirit as God's Spirit, and actua…
[quote author=peterfarrington link=topic=8778.msg110153#msg110153 date=1265584608]
I am not sure why you are saying that Christ did not inherit Adam's mortal nature.
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That makes perfect sense now, by the way.
We do not believe that Saint…
[quote author=peterfarrington link=topic=8778.msg110151#msg110151 date=1265582947]
No, I don't think so, because that sort of assumes that God's purposes in the incarnation were not as He willed them to be worked out.
In a very real sense the whole…
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The Fathers are clear.
Christ was born mortal.
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OK, so it means that Christ could have died of old age? In theory?
according to what you have written, then…
Fr. Peter,
OK. This is good.
So, now the 2nd question is:
Christ - was he born immortal or mortal?
Or, if you like, and for those who are pedantic: was he born with the gift of immortality or not?
This is now the 2nd question.
If He was bo…
Dear Fr. Peter,
So that we can be sure we are both on the same wavelength, let me put this to you in another way.
What His Holiness Pope Shenouda III meant was that man was created in INCORRUPTION (sure, with the potential to be corrupted..) - but…
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All of our comments need to be supported by the testimony of the Fathers and I will provide some quotations later, God willing, but I am just back in from services at…
(Sorry, I wrote this on my iPhone whilst in Church - I'll try and correct it for any mistakes)
Hi,
of course we should have the View or official view of the church, but before we do, may I just ask that we verify each point in this discussion, as …
[quote author=minagir link=topic=8776.msg110032#msg110032 date=1265439180]
Guys......this was already DONE..."wezaret el-athar" of the government is what lead these renovations
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How do I know that this was already done? What on earth do I …
Just to explain myself better:
When Christ said to Pilate, "I have authority to lay down my life, and authority to take it back" -
What this means is that through * HIS WILL * He is giving up His Life. Through * HIS WILL * He is taking it back. I…