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[quote author=Unworthy1 link=topic=11218.msg135542#msg135542 date=1302233241] Counseling or some type of similar service concerning drug addiction - to clarify. And yes, the Protestants have all of these programs according to my understanding. [/quo…
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Why not eat food on the floor instead of a plate? Because the floor is not only dirty but not designed for that purpose. While the plate was designed specifically for eating. The church is designed to be a place in which God is worshipped liturgical…
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I swear some people just post without reading what I wrote. Pharaoh, the church is not open all the time. I do not have a key and only a select few have them, so it was locked and there was no way to get in. User00, I never said Egyptians are the on…
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[quote author=Zoxsasi link=topic=11114.msg134368#msg134368 date=1301344271] Are you sick of Greeks? [/quote] the greeks that I know, I am quite fond of actually.
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These claims have no sources to verify them. There is no evidence that St Dioscorous did anything that the EO claim he did. The fact is Leo I of Rome was the first to really push papal primacy, and even supported Theodoret, a confirmed nestorian her…
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Everyone is, but its the fact that those particular Jews did it out of willful ignorance, because Christ was not what they wanted Him to be like.
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Its just hard for me to only care about me. It really upset me because this was done to someone else, not me. Sad thing is I know how he feels.
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It is difficult because there are no other OO churches close by, I might be able to attend one once a month, maybe. But I will not go to RC or EO. I want to go to an Ethiopian Church, they generally seem to care a bit more and have respect for conve…
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mina, read what I wrote again or put on your glasses or something. I specifically told Abouna about this situation that way I could be positive someone would be there, I was actually on my way when the guy called and informed me that nobody was ther…
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I am just speaking in general. People are lazy in our church. Nobody has to be pointed out specifically and you know this. I am saying that certain things need to be stressed. But its like, why the hell care if nobody else does, I get really tired o…
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That is what upsets me. Nobody does or says anything because they do not want to "upset" anyone. But its ok to completely snub someone who clearly wants to learn about Orthodoxy. Where is the sense in that? I was so angry I did not even go to church…
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Does anyone read? I said if your here to fight, leave, if your here for inquiry then that is fine! I never called anyone a heretic, I have plainly stated several times over that the BELIEF is heretical, I am NOT JUDGING the person. We are not arguin…
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Thank you unworthy1 for your comments. First of I will again make it clear that I refer to the belief system as heretical, not the people. I do believe certain things need to change, such as using english only during the liturgy, or any service for …
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I agree with stavro, protestantism is pagan. The god they worship is a god of their own creation, one they are comfortable with, one that serves them, that is under their feet. Anba Bola, you are speaking of heretics that were within the church, Mar…
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There are people here that are confused, and I accept that, and there are people here for the sole purpose of fighting with others in an attempt to justify their beliefs. Arius was clearly a heretic and many people tried to correct him, but he was a…
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[quote author=lightening link=topic=10823.msg131930#msg131930 date=1299180509] i even included the quote i referred to, so you cannot say i am misinterpreting/twisting words. meanwhile you have not connected with my point, in fact you naturally avoi…
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This thread has gone downhill. I really get upset when I see people do their best to demonize others by twisting others words. Lightning if you do not have a proper argument in which to defend protestantism, then perhaps it is time to question it as…
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[quote author=servant33 link=topic=10823.msg131919#msg131919 date=1299168233] [quote author=Ioannes link=topic=10823.msg131906#msg131906 date=1299159231] ... and all of our priests act like Anthony Messah. [/quote] Well if that is not a personal j…
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Zoxasi, there seems to be this "half-truth" theory amongst some of our clergy. Well they have the same Christology, which is certainly not always true and a reflection on their clear ignorance of protestantism, so they are technically the same. What…
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It seems we have an infiltration here that has already affected the minds and hearts of Orthodox people. The grace of the Holy Spirit is with His church, those who choose to worship God in their own way do not have this grace. To adopt their heretic…
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I would question any bishop who states that protestantism is Christian and you can achieve salvation through it, this would be to deny Orthodoxy, we should then omit the phrase from our creed "And in ONE Holy Catholic and Apostolic church of God" we…
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Zoxasi, much of this complaint has to do with how the service makes YOU feel. We have to remember that we are not there to please ourselves, but God. This is probably one of the major reasons people leave churches like this, because they dont feel …
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minatasgeel, join Orthodox Purity on FB and there you can see the Comparative Hymnology, I posted it here but nobody seemed to care.
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This is getting absurd, very very absurd. Some of these things people are saying just downright disgust me. An Islamist? You have got to be kidding me?
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Lightening, You make your argument based on the assumption that protestantism is Christian, this is false. We should be evangelizing more and unlike the protestants we Christianize the current traditions of the people we convert. How exactly what we…
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Pharoh123, your last post is a classic example of what I have been trying to show. You are mixing up the individual and the belief as if they are the exact same thing, and they are not. We are not condemning the people, we are condemning the belief …
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Jfarag, then why is it that you have such a hard time understanding the difference between the people and the belief? I never said anything against the people and you cannot seem to understand that.
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Zoxasi, it took me years and years to "get" Orthodoxy. There is no video that can explain our faith. Orthodox Purity is great at explaining our faith because the group itself is about the true Orthodox faith in its purest form. Many in our own churc…
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Zoxasi, in my experience I find that it is necessary to engage protestants, and not in this tree hugger manner so many of our clergy embrace. Being honest and truthful is what we should be, we shouldnot refrain from speaking the truth to their faces…
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Zoxasi, the reason I say this is because I have experience in protestantism. I do not want to generalize ALL of them, but it seem as if they dont want to understand. Protestantism means to PROTEST, and in this case it means against the church, the s…