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The only thing any church really needs to assimilate into the culture it is within is using the language of that culture. There are acceptions during the liturgy like when we sing agios for the Gospel, its usually in Greek because the Gospel was wri…
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Yes DC you may.
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I have a lot of books on Jews: The International Jew by Henry Ford (the car guy) Against the Jews by St John Chrysostom The protocols of zion by cant remember. There are many different types of jews. After the temples destruction many sects of jud…
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Seriously? Not one person?
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[quote author=anba bola link=topic=10538.msg128801#msg128801 date=1296273926] Ioannes, There's no need to apologize. You didn't do anything wrong. It is less about the words and more about what is meant by the words. please pray for my weak self …
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Anba, that is reasonable and I do not mean to condemn anyone but I like to make the distinction between Orthodoxy and Protestantism and make it clear that protestantism is not Christian for the sake of our Orthodox people, so they understand that th…
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Anba Bola your not passing judgment on someone, its on their beliefs. If they adhere to protestantism in general they cannot be considered Christian. Protestantism is the devils delusion and probably one of his most clever heresies he has ever inven…
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Zoxasi will not leave the church and here is why. He knows it is truth, despite the flaws of those introducing heresy into her. He is simply voicing his frustration much like I have, I have said many times I want to leave the church, for pretty much…
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Even though alot of our clergy denies the apostasy has or is happening, its clear that it is happening and has been happening. The church is being attacked more in recent years, both physically and spiritually. Financially everything is falling apar…
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Dude, its a good deed, old people make you take the money regardless.
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[quote author=Zoxsasi link=topic=10538.msg128673#msg128673 date=1296201375] Im leaving the CoC.. Thank GOD my Coptic Church here is NOTHING like the Church in the UK. The priests and deacons are turning a blind eye as to what is going on in the na…
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I think the COC does not really take an official stance so it doesnt make anyone mad. Regardless of what is said, truth speaks for itself. The church has NEVER accepted heresy as Christian and NEVER will. The nestorian church still exists, basically…
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[quote author=abanoub2000 link=topic=10538.msg128635#msg128635 date=1296180529] just talked to my servant and he insist "the coptic church see the protestants as legitimate christians" can anyone verify or refute that? [/quote] Indeed. They canno…
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Indeed Copticboy. Protestantism is heresy, there is no reason to integrate anything non-Orthodox into our church. They are trying to brainwash our youth and that is just plain unacceptable.
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As long as we educate others as to the danger of protestantism. Again if anyone would like my books to learn more go to http://stores.lulu.com/stjohnpublications or give me your email address and I will send a copy for free.
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[quote author=TITL link=topic=10538.msg128603#msg128603 date=1296167380] [quote author=Ioannes link=topic=10538.msg128601#msg128601 date=1296167080] TITL, this truly is a big task at hand, but if God is with us then who can be against us. I hate to …
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Well that is why I am hoping to get all these people in disagreement together. My priest told me, I dont know better than a bishop. I told him that yes I do, because he was never part of any protestant church and I was part of many. I hate to sound …
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TITL, this truly is a big task at hand, but if God is with us then who can be against us. I hate to sound so polarized but its the truth of the matter.
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GODlovesme, I spoke to a few people from that church and got nowhere. I spoke with my own abouna but I am not sure I was taken very seriously. The good thing here is that we have a good start with Fr. Peter and I am talking with Fr. Athanasius Iskan…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=10538.msg128594#msg128594 date=1296166088] I would be interested to know what proportion of congregations in the dioceses in the US, Canada, UK, Europe and Australia use guitars and sing modern Protestant songs?…
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Although that red book has many good Coptic songs, it also contains MANY protestant songs and for that reason alone there should be a book burning. It is difficult communicating this to cradle Orthodox as many of them, especially adults, dont see an…
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[quote author=Zoxsasi link=topic=10538.msg128570#msg128570 date=1296159572] I think we have a problem still Fr. Peter. Would you agree that playing the guitar in a prayer meeting is wrong? Its not Orthodox. Singing hymns that the Church didnt se…
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Will do Fr. Peter. I think our FB group for now is just a place for us to gather those who do not know where else to go. Hopefully we will be able to discuss issues and what we can do about them. I hope to get a mobile phone soon, I am looking at on…
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Fr. Peter, I dont really intend on this being a protest group, but more like what you said. I dont want a protest, but I would like to inform everyone and the more people that join and understand our cause, then the more serious we wou…
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I would say many cradle Orthodox do not quite understand comparative theology well enough to see that there is a danger in letting this influence in. Do not leave the church, this is OUR church not theirs. The Ethiopian church has somewhat of a simi…
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Not as many people joined as I thought.
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I hope to see more people, the more the better. And if Fr. Peter gets on board as our spokes person or leader or whatever, that would be a great help.
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What is your email?
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[quote author=GODlovesme link=topic=10556.msg128471#msg128471 date=1296098305] I deactivated my facebook account but you guys can just let me know what is going and I'll be glad to provide my assistance :) [/quote] We can probably keep you updated …
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GODlovesme, I somehow knew automatically you were down and I would be honored to have a firecracker like you on board. Now, where do we go from here? We need a website or something.