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Epchois nai nan, Why does everything all of a sudden have to make sense to us for us to accept it? Women are not excluded from the sacramental life. They can participate in each sacrament but in a more limited role of congregant instead of assis…
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What I said in parenthesis was a side note. I have no issue with you guys dressing a like or wearing nice outfits but a tonya is for liturgical service. You guys don't serve in liturgies. There are many significances to wearing the tonyas, its not j…
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We are not giving a word too much power, mina posted the roles of a deaconess and its requirements. You guys are not following them totally. At this point in time, your main role is to sing as the choir(i still don't think you guys should wear anyth…
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Serve others with your other talents, you have many.
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Godlovesme, I do not go to your church or have attended your hymn lessons, but I have always encouraged girls to learn the hymns and participate in the liturgy as part of the congregation. If anyone is aware, the rank of Psaltos was not a true rank …
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I do not mean to be disrespectful, but having these girls lead at all is not correct. Especially during a liturgy. The true roles of a deaconess isn't to sing or wear a "tonya", at all or have a position such as that of the deacons(and the ranks the…
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Is there a copy of the book of Enoch anywhere in English to edifying the discussion? I think when debating it is important to read both sides of the argument before making conclusions. whether this book is real or not(as in a true account) does not …
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10439.msg127291#msg127291 date=1295321284] Hehe... Mina, this attitude is what makes you a very respectable member and not only that but a deacon and a hymns teacher as well (if only you wouldn't have refused sharin…
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The greek church prays his liturgy and we have a prayer of reconciliation by him
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=10439.msg127204#msg127204 date=1295241215] [quote author=Michael Boutros link=topic=10439.msg127198#msg127198 date=1295240202] Thanks for all the responses! Unfortunately, the CopticHymns.net website is still not…
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I agree to a point with Ilovesaintmark, sometimes its not about the voice. As long as the tune is said correctly, good voice or bad and the prayers can move you, doesn't matter. Ibrahim ayad now does not have the best voice due to a surgery he under…
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GB=Greco-Bohairic, apparently the incorrect dialect being used today for pronunciation of coptic.
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I actually really like old recordings, more so then the new ones.
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Lol did someone call my name? This discussion has been discussed at length 100 times. Yet it comes up over and over. I do agree there MUST be at least 50-60% English in liturgies(if people will tolerate less than that then great), whether or not the…
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Ioannes, where can one find this book. Do you know?
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Fady, in the books i've seen its not fetavmasf but fetasmasf, Does this make a difference when using Apenchois(by the way, all of the paralex are in past tense which still makes sense because all of these were acts done.) For Theophany, my text says…
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Ioannes, I very much like what St Basil has said, although in this specific case I do not think many people died or were injured due to their sins as an act of "cutting off" from the Body of Christ. I believe God allowed it so that these people coul…
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I agree with Ioannes, absolute best time of year is 105 days of Great Lent-Pentecost I get so sad when its over. lol
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Father Peter, I would say that it is modern phenomena that you don't find people dressed in suits and ties at every liturgy. The usually attire at least at my own is more business casual than anything else while the youth are more or less between ca…
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Ideally, we are supposed to wear our best clothes while meeting the King of Kings, regardless of occasion(so if your best outfit is a suit and tie, then you should wear it to every liturgy) However, since people have become more lax, you don't see s…
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I think we should rejoice regardless. Major feasts of the Lord "trump" if you will any occasion. If you recall, during the Holy 50, we are to never have a funeral in a mournful state, always joyful. We aren't mourning for the martyrs, we mourn for t…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10365.msg126236#msg126236 date=1294139046] The whole hos is in Coptic but there were people who were dying to get out of their original skin and be as Europeans... please don't start me... Did you mean HICS or HCOC?…
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Yes, we don't believe that the Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and the Son. We believe, He proceeds from just the Father.
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Interesting, I heard a liturgy called el mariamy in arabic as well. Does that mean that more than one ethiopian liturgy, at one point, was being prayed in our church?
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[quote author=Pharaoh714 link=topic=10327.msg125853#msg125853 date=1293778818] The Qudas al Habashy is the Liturgy of St. John the Beloved. There is nothing wrong with the liturgy its beutiful but we use the Liturgy of St. Mark in our Church (aka st…
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[quote author=minagir link=topic=10190.msg125836#msg125836 date=1293764131] [quote author=jydeacon link=topic=10190.msg125814#msg125814 date=1293746692] Sofonios doesn't translate to Hosea though mina. If we change it to hosea then what do we do wit…
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This sounds like odas el habashi, Its no longer allowed to be prayed in the coptic church. It is one of the many liturgies the ethiopians pray(this one is just translated to arabic). I do not have the text to this liturgy but someone might have it..…
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[quote author=minagir link=topic=10190.msg125792#msg125792 date=1293734313] [quote author=jydeacon link=topic=10190.msg125088#msg125088 date=1292958425] I have to agree with Remenkemi and Ophadece on this one. I really think the entire madeeha shoul…
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The issue is in the translation Omelnour, not with what its saying in arabic although its a bit ridiculous and apparent that many of the authors of the madeya7 were very ignorant and not knowledgeable in theology or anything deep in the church. On…