I guess Tomas had an "excuse" to doubt, he hadn't seen Christ while St Mary had seen Him and touched him before. She doubted due to the rumours spread by the jews and the soldiers, which is quite different than the situation of Tomas. He was the onl…
i don't know where u got the text but i heard about it
Good old memory lol, our leading deacon here used to travel around and he picked up some of these "made up" verses all around Egypt. I never asked where exactly he learned them, i'll ask though!
There's several Psali's listed for Lakaan services, and they are in the big Lakaan book as far as i know, I have no clue what tune they are chanted with but I guess it's festive in the Epiphany Lakaan, and annual for the rest.
The hymne "oroshaleem…
yah sure, uhm, i'll see if i can make some sort of table this week or else next week.
There are 2 ways of singing Tenouosht: First with the cymbals, secondly in the tune of Pi-O-oiney enta efmi. During Bright saturday, my friend did it the "cymbals …
Okay, we start from scratch.
Let's assume we are in a church where we pray all the prayers in the correct time, this is how the schedule should look like:
Saturday evening
-6:15 PM: Agpeya, the 9th, 11th and 12th hour (usually only prayed by …
LOL, you come across as an...nah never mind.
well, Vassilios, Matins is what we call in arabic "Baker" or "raf3 bokhour baker".
Vespers is 3asheya, the prayer in the evening before the Liturgy.
If you come to the mass and you're really really ear…
Well, there's also the editing mistake in Afrek etve remember? There was a whole part missing, so maybe it is a mistake and it may be fixed in future tapes. You'd have to ask him if you see him in Egypt lol.
what i ment is that we would want to say the resurrection verses in long tune. but do to time, u wont be able to say the long intro. especially if it's like 4 parts like the adam.
Yah, thats a dilemma, but c'mon how long does it take to say 4 long v…
Well, why not, he also says the first part of Tenen one time too many, while recording it's very easy to forget yourself and repeat a part one time too many. But i'd wonder why they don't cut the extra part out, i'm sure Ibrahim Ayad listens to the …
I dont understand what u mean by that!
Do u mean that you can't chant the verses during the Fifty Days in the long tune?
Or that its better to chant the long tune without the intro verses if there's a time problem?
Or did i totally misunderstand ur…
lol, you are right, the first few hazaat of the "new part" are repeated one time to many.
The extra part is from minute 1:37 to 1:50, and you're probably correct when you said that he wasnt paying attention.
In that case, the live cathedral recordi…
Mina said
well the idea is that this way, to say Apikhrestos long, u'd have to say the Intro long. soo.........it goes back to time matters.
Ya, that could be part of the problem, but there's still no good reason to skip the intro all together lol. …
Mina said
well i just wanted to say you can't include it since you say the morning doxology in it's normal tune (except for the 1st 10 which says as verses of cymbals tune).
becuase it's the Seven ways/tunes. u don't say the 7 tune on bright saturda…
Only the Feast masses that are prayed in the evening have a unique arrangement for the Verses of the Cymbals and the Seven Melodies Hymn.
The reason is quite simple, we dont pray the Morning Doxology before we pray matins on these 3 occasions, so t…
most books say that u start with the normal intro, adam or watos, than say the Pikhrestos parts than shere ne maria..
I find that way most logic, there's no reason why you would skip the intro (except to "save time").
Some people would tell you that…
why don't u learn it from the "official" resurrection rites recording?
http://tasbeha.org/mp3/Hymns/Major_Feasts_of_the_Lord/Resurrection/Ibrahim_Ayad/Part_2.html
do you mean:
"Wal-mado lel-lahee da-eman."
just one minor correction it should be "magdo" instead of "mado"
magd means glory
lel lah means to God
da-eman means forever
The first Hoos talks about God's salvation for us.
It's actually full of symbolism.
Moses is a typ of Christ who delivered us from the slavery (=death and sin) of satan (= the devil) by crossing the red sea (=baptism) which he split by his rod (=t…
Thank you for that post Anglian,
I think there is a soteriological flaw in Hos Erof's logic, which is why I go back to St. Cyril. Our pre-lapsarian human nature did God's will; it is this the Incarnate Word has, and it is redeemed through this proce…
hm, okay, the baptism thing sounds logic, but what do you actually mean by "stain"? I personally don't like the term "stain of sin" because it makes me think in the direction of the "inheritance of the actual sin of adam", does that make sense? ::)…
Hi wateengedoe2,
I find your name really funny, and i'm probably one of few people on this site that knows what it means. Ik neem aan dat je uit Nederland komt ;)
As for your question, I don't know about any arabic gospels written in latin alphabe…
Excellent discussion, but now I come to the following point that i could never figure out: what what it that St Mary was cleansed off when the Holy Spirit overshadowed here!!
We don't believe sin is something "genetic" if you will, and we don't inh…
I think there is something that one is implying here, which is not necessarily the case. When someone speaks of kissing, often the assumption is that it is on the lips.
Ommal e7na kona benetkalem 3an eh? ;D
I was talking about kissing with capital…
Would you please tell me what is inherently wrong with kissing? What exactly makes it unacceptable?
hard question. There's nothing wrong with it per se, but look at it this way:
When you are married, you don't go kiss anybody but your wife/husband…
I don't wish to be rude or anything in anyway, but what is so hard in finding the gospel response? U go to "text library => feasts => major feasts of the lord => resurrection => liturgy. Then you end up here:
http://tasbeha.org/hymn_lib…
the response of Easter is the txt from both the Verses of the Cymbals and the Aspasmos Watos for the Resurrection: Lipon avkaf khen pi emhav. You can find it in any psalmody, deacons service book, and in the txt library here. If you cant find it, le…