Kiahk Vespers Praise. The Vespers raising of incense is said in the hymns of the day, with the right of the next day...rite of sunday is the first sunday of kiahk, so vespers and its praise is to follow.
There has been MANY developments in Psalmody through the years...and we can see that from manuscripts of psalmodies. it was mainly the 4 hooses and there lobshes, without Aripsalin or tenen or tenoweh ensok. Those were kind of reserved to "overnight…
@Biboboy...that is not a rank in the Coptic Orthodox Church. The closest to it is Khouri Episcopos, which many of the older bishops we have now were. For some reason, that rank died down. Even the last Khouri Episcopos, Anba Isaak who serves with An…
@ophadece...lol...why can't i ever get an objective statement from you that's not rooted into the OB argument?! Is it really that hard to consider other people's idea and thinking, even if it doesn't make sense?!!!
So, did coptic influence syrian, l…
The soul is life...the thing that make the body move...so animals have souls because they are alive and die.The spirit is the part in us that we received from God when He breathed in us life. It's the thing that lives forever and leaves the body and…
This is not his opinion, it's a lot of people's opinion...he basically says "the tune is considered more than the accuracy of pronunciation." That shows in many many hymns and psalies and doxologies in church, either in Coptic or Arabic. M Gad here …
Hi @Daniel_Kyrillos...don't be too hard on yourself...we will all survive as long as we are with God :-)
Let me put it this way, anyone who is not in the following dioceses is under the Pope directly, making up the Archdiocese of North America (incl…
According to the original arabic from Anba Raphael, no. Which kind of makes sense.
I think this whole General Bishop thing is the Synod's way of avoiding possible problems with enthroning a bishop that you cannot after remove for not being the good …
And, we have an official list:https://www.facebook.com/CopticUS/posts/410715836010983
Enthronement of:
1- HG Bishop Angealos (General Bishop of Stevenage), as Bishop of London, UK
2- HG Bishop Karas (General Bishop in Archdiocese of NA), as Bishop …
@mabsoota. What minasoliman mentioned will most likely happen. The only delay to an official announcement is that people keep fighting about Anba Karas' new diocese because of the issues with Anba Michael.
@qawe..
Two points we have to consider:1- It's possible that one bishop is ordained on a state with one or two churches under the jurisdiction of another bishop. Despite how annoying that may be as minasoliman said, it happens since not all church h…
@minasoliman...i thought he goes to Austria for medical reasons. no?!
About splitting the diocese, i really think that may still happen. The thing is, till now, all we are hearing are rumors the leaks--one bishop or priest takes the emails that Anba…
Concerning Anba Michael:
https://www.facebook.com/CopticUS/posts/409285309487369https://www.facebook.com/CopticUS/posts/409394412809792
I don't think he is to be considered a "General Bishop" despite the fact that he was not enthroned....welcomed y…
@minasoliman...I second what you said. Being a person who understand arabic, i follow Anba Angelos on facebook and a couple of lectures of his (not sermons) online. I think we will benefit from him. He actually came with HH to SUS and LA. I am also …
Hi,
No, you are not doing anything wrong. Some bishops and priests are just humble enough to allow you to kiss their hands. Some would allow you to kiss the cross if they have one in their hands, but not their hands.
@bashandy...I actually agree with you on how to deal with those madayeh.
Concerning Coptic...so what I am understanding is, because Coptic is a "dead" language, the standards that are applied to other languages are not here?!
It would be nice to get…
@bashandy...I am sure you are aware of the huge amount of Kiahk arabic hymns/madayeh/psalies/commentaries...all of the ones we have now may have been written in the last 6 centuries, this is considering the lives of many of the writers of which name…
@bashandy: concerning the dating, many conclude that it was Fr. Sarkis that wrote, and some conclude that Sarkis lived during 14-15 century: https://st-takla.org/articles/fr-basilous-sobhy/characters/sarkis.html
@mrpete33...you should put some time into understanding how canon law works...
What you would like to call 'tradition' or 'Tradition' or 'acceptable' or not is totally arbitrary because you do not have any authority...neither do I or RamezM or minas…
That is true. But it's harder to get to manuscripts...and a critical edition?! how in the world if we are still burning manuscripts in old churches, and those who do have ones just want to make money, and those who have ones and cherish them, don't …
A footnote we have in our bright saturday book:"The hymn is compiled of chosen parts of the Psalms. These parts have different versions. The source of these listed parts is “The Deacon’s Service & Hymns Book” of The Committee of the Revival of t…
I don't think we are saying anything other then both cases are acceptable. I think this is hard to consider without a deep look into how monasteries were through the centuries--they were not as isolated as they are now and many of them were in the m…
@Remenkemi...there are a couple of small monasteries that are like Texas situation...where they are part of the diocese, the abbot is the bishop of the diocese, but it still would have a "robbita" taking care of everything. We don't hear bout them b…