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ehhh, it's not fortune...its' really how things work in life. we don't have to be the experts in everything. there is an arabic saying that says: eddi el3eesh le-khabazino--give the bread to its bakers. Each person has a set of skills or knowledge t…
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@ophadece,:-) that's really fine. I don't expect cantors to be teachers of the language.
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Btw, M Mikhail records the one for lent as: Pashois Eisos Pikhrestor, ernisteven....
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Fixed btw.
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Actually that school is a nice school. But they are just doing what we are now talking about, saying Alli elorban on weekends and not weekdays.
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Yes Ophadece. It looks like the Muharraq book and Albairs links Alli el-orban to Fai be pi and not the other psalms.
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I am looking at the Muharraq book and it's very interesting what it says for that part. in a footnote, and I am paraphrasing: the custom came to be that if the priest takes long in the procession, the people say Alli elorban followed by Fai be pi. S…
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@sirlanky1990...I am not sure what are you referring to exactly....we worship through out the liturgy before that moment anyways (that's if you really still consider time, which I am not agreeing with). I am not saying that the change doesn't happen…
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@ShareTheLord, that's a great source to read about the Euchrist.
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Yes, however the change happens at the epiclesis I would love to understand what is the point of contemplating on that specific statement?! How does it help us in any way considering the specific time the bread and wine transform into Christ?
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It's the latter that is a better understanding of the mystery that takes place. And this is really the case through many of the liturgies in our Church: Baptism, Unction of the Sick, Blessing of the Water (laqqan), Crowning Ceremonies...etc. The thi…
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I am working on it...
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Hi, I am not sure what is being requested here?
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It really depends on what the priest says.
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Actually, specifically for vesting, they say the entire psalm 29 and 92...atleast according to Coptic Reader.
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@mabsoota- also can i ask why this is called gospel response for the 2nd (1st) week? when do we use it? 2nd or 1st?which response do we use this weekend?" So, there are different Matins and Vespers and Liturgy responses for every week of kiahk that …
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I think one discussion for this question is good enough :-) This is the basic order of the Hetinis in kiahk:http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/61
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Hello SongsForAscents, First, I wanted to welcome you to the forum. Second, I wanted to clarify that Tasbeha does not represent the Coptic Orthodox Church even though we are part of the Church. This is a forum of many knowledgeable members of the C…
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Why not consider Aripsalin to just be an psali that was written by Fr Sarkis, a watos one that is, and it should be said according to the watos tune of the season?...and at someone point of time, someone decided to just give it it's own tune.
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I understand what you are saying but I disagree with your reasoning.
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@ophadece...more confusion...why why why?! specially on a friday night at the end of a long work week... So no words are being "constructed" here. the words always existed. The words are not what's changing here, but the ornaments/hazzat are.
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@ophadece:"construction on sharat doesn't seem to be a good idea especially when you say half of the verse in a long tune and the other half faster.. hehe.. never experienced that before.. innovation.." I am confused by that statement. So do you mea…
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Nice of you to bring this is up: So for Cantor Zaher version: it is based on C Tawfik recording which I think Abouna Mettias Nasr brought to HICS and recorded it in their Pentecost recordings. For Cantor Ibrahim version: it is based on a teaching fr…
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@SMBM:I don't believe the traditional definition of the subdeacon is still prevalent today. I have to disagree. I think bishops have been giving that rank to many older youths with the spread of deacons (readers or chanters) in that age range, spec…
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I really just need a re-definition of the duties of sub-deacons in our Church....
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Someone asked the Pope about this topic when he met with the churches in Seattle and i believe his holiness responded nicely: his response is in arabic but i believe it's simple to understand. If anyone doesn't understand anything, please PM me.
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Matthew 5:39 (NKJV) But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. Attached is an explanation that is in St. Mark's Masr El-gedida Bible explanations (a quick source for explanati…
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It's always funny to me when someone predicts or identifies what others would do in a specific situation, and then not too long after we see a confirmation of that...not sure for what reason. Kahan just did this and proved how rude, unchristian, inc…
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Why do we have to burden ourselves with the knowledge that will make it easier for us to judge/condemn others?! Why do we have to complicate decisions that our fathers (The Synod) have taken as they have the authority to do so, given to them from J…
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I think his grace was clear enough without "stepping on any toes"